Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Talking Point 3: Raby: A Tangle of Discourse

Extended Comments with the help of Eian's blog post -- Thank you!!!

Raby said:
"A powerful, pervasive story about adolescence is that it is a clear, predictable (but turbulent) stage that teenagers inevitably undergo as they grow into adulthood. " 

Eian said:
This statement is true and untrue all teenagers go through adolescents. Some may consider adolescents a bit awkward. I think it all depends on how the teenager goes through that adolescent period.  I think it all depends on what happens and what kind of events are thrown your way.  We all have different experiences and some of our lives are much more difficult or different then others. In my honest opinion I don't think adolescents is at all times predictable. Adolescents is a time of ups, downs and spirals. It all depends on what direction we take and all the twists and turns along the way.


I say:
I agree with Eian that adolescence is an awkward time of life, there is no denying it.  So it really does depend on how the teenager spent their adolescent years: who their role models were, if they had a healthy experience, if they had an "outlet" or skill to focus on.  I love that Eian says: We all have different experiences and some are more difficult than others, those are the exact words that came to my mind when I read this piece.  Our adolescence and teenage years are what shape us into who we grow up to be, they are so important and influential.

Raby said:
"Adolescence is discursively framed as a stage that seems to require a degree of self-refection, it is also marginalized (in terms of voice and self-refection) and often laced with current, popular concern about adolescents as dangerous, ungoverned and in need of control." 

Eian Said:
All in all this is a well said statement. Adolescence is a time where teenagers not all the time but sometimes need guidance in everyday happenings.  I don't think we necessarily have to control this time period in a teenagers life but we do need to sometimes push them along the way.  Some teenagers are free spirited and some even like to live by their own rules. At times this may be dangerous but other times teens need the ball in their own court. Sometimes they need to make their own rules. As adults we can help them along the way but at times we won't always be there to help them. They need to learn how to do it on their own.

I say:
At first I had mixed feelings about what Eian had posted.  I totally agree that teenagers need room to do their own thing, explore, find their way, and be a free spirit.  Any maybe it's because I've always been that goodie-too-shoes kind of girl, with the military older brother and drill sargent of a mother but I've never been the type of kid to get in much trouble.  So until I was diagnosed they gave me more freedom than most kids my age, as long as I was following their standards and checked in with them.  But over the years, I've seen so many teenagers who don't have those people in their lives who are guiding them and it's gotten ugly.  I lost one of my best friends from high school to heroin in October and he is someone who really didn't have anyone in his life to help him or guide him.

Raby Said:
"I know with my parents sometimes they’ll turn things around. Like when they want me to take responsibility for something they’ll say you’re supposed to act like an adult...but then um when I am whatever taking responsibility or when I’m out for the whole day doing my own things and then I want to go to a party or something they’ll say ‘you’re not 21’. (Vienna) " 

Eian Said:
Parents do sometimes put a lot of responsibilities onto teens. I think some parents do this because they know their teens can handle this. I however don't think its fair when parents are contradicting of what they originally say. I know teens can be confusing but parents can be just as confusing. Like teens they can mean one thing and say another. I defiantly experienced this as a adolescent but I also had a very rough time during this period. All most parents want is whats best for their children. They want them to succeed in the best way possible. In order to do that I think teens sometimes need clear cut rules guidelines and not have their parent or parents confusing them.

I say:
I think that year after year the responsibilities for teens are growing.  Not only do they have to be in school but they have to have great grades, they have to  go to college, they need a job, the worry about relationships, looks, weight, fashion, popularity, some need to support families, the list goes on and on.  Life is no longer simple and it is certainly not getting any easier for the next generation's teenagers.  


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